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Holy Grail?
wstagner:
All this talk of "chasing" the Holy Grail of Bob Bogle's WDR or Hank Marvin's "that sound" what about the drum sound on those early toons of both? Neither Tony Mehan (Shad's 1st drummer) nor Howie Johnston (Ventures 1st drummer) are around to tellus what or how it was done. Brian Bennett sounds nothing like Tony and Mel, Joe Barile, and now Leon sound nothing like Howie.
So, how is the Holy Grail to be achieve w/o capturing the "original" drum sound? If Holy Grail is the end game, the drummer, the drums used, or any related equipment cannot be left oota the equation.
tabalt11:
You're exactly right Walt. Howie preferred a lot of
rimshots & it didn't matter whether he was using
the snare or the toms. Also what may have
also been overlooked in his playing was
his tendency while playing the beat
to- for want of a better term,
SLERVE his sticks.
Yes we heard the da da, da twist beat but he
incorporated 'that little extra' with the one hand!
However, prowess-wise I don't think he measured up
to any of his successors. The distinction he did receive
was that 'those early albums' are often considered by fans
to be the very best from their vast inventory & his impeccable
timing made it all possible.
wstagner:
Tom, sadly I don't think we'll ever no about his powess since he was only on the early records and there are no recordings of him posted anywhere I'm aware of other than his ventures records.
Howie, Mel, Joe, Leon brot their own u neek sound 2 the V.
U hav said b4 that u thot Joe injected a bretha fresh err to the groop after Mel left in 72. I agree w/that. Howie, Mel and Leon wer/R snarecentric. Joe was mr. tomtom. ;D
wstagner:
Why has no 1 ever axed what kinds drums or stix Howie used? The same for other V drummers.
I'd say that no 1 thinx it matters and/or cares?
Don/Bob were newbie geetar players early on. Howie, Mel, and Joe were all experienced drummers. Who were their influences? We know that Mel played on Monster Mash and Jan Davis' Fugitive. Who'd he play with b4 that?
Does any 1 reely no watt tyme it is? ;D
abstamaria:
I am curious what drums they used in the early days. I am sure that was the basic set, with just a single mounted tom and one cymbal (we didn't distinguish between crash and ride in thiose days). There is a discussion now on the Shadows forum on the correct cymbals for that old sound.
Andy
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